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Should I vote for Trump because at the very least he won’t be corrupt?

He seems to have strong morals, within his own opinions, I really can’t see a liar in him. I seriously doubt anyone could ever imagine that man involved in a corruption scandal. He always speaks out of his mind. I don’t think I could ever feel the same about Hillary, let alone red Sanders.
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Erik Hagborg

Erik Hagborg, Digital Strategist, consultant and proud Canadian. Interested in history, pol…

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1) You think he has strong morals?    He has absolutely no morals. He’s a bully.  He’s a racist. He’s a xenophobe.  He makes personal attacks on people.  He publicly laughed at someone with physical disabilities.  He swears on national TV.  HE SUGGESTS KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS!  (A war crime no less).
2) You think he is honest?  He is absolutely a liar and has been proven to be such on many occasions.  Don’t take my word for it, check out Politifact’s Donald Trump’s file
3) You doubt he could be corrupt? Trump has been tied to organized crime, drug dealers, and more.  How Close Was Donald Trump To The Mob?  He has been sued numerous times: We Investigated, Donald Trump is Named in at Least 169 Federal Lawsuits.   He’s in REAL ESTATE!  Of course he’s corrupt.
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Suffice to say, I don’t really care about your politics or leanings, but I can guarantee you that Trump is not running for President to “Make America Great Again”.  He is a narcissist and a bully. He is running entirely to feed his ego and for personal gain and he is using innocent people like you to do it.
If he ever does get into power the following will happen:
1) The United States will be the laughing stock of the world.  (Seriously, Trump makes Toronto’s Rob Ford  look like an angel.)
2) While we have very little actual details on any of his policies, just bragging and outlandish statements, but if he actually does any of the things he says he will: Build a wall with Mexico, deport all Muslims and Illegal Immigrants, get rid of the Environmental Protection Agency, put in surveillance on Muslims living in the United States, eliminate NASA, put MORE money into the U.S. Military… (and so on)
If he does those things the U.S. Economy will be toast. That is to say, the U.S. will be as broke as Trump was each time he declared bankruptcy.  And in a way that would make the recession of 2008 and the depression of 1930s look like the day before payday.
So you can vote for Trump if you like, but you will be responsible for feeding this megalomaniac’s ego and severely harming the United States.

Jon Painter

Jon Painter, US citizen, world traveller.

60.7k ViewsUpvoted by Carlos Matias La Borde, An American my entire life.
A decade ago I worked on a show with Mr. Trump. From my experience, I would argue that he views himself as a “sharp,” and the people that invest or vote for him he views as “flats.”
Sharps take from flats.
You know how he keeps repeating that he’ll put the “best people” on things?
I would submit to you that Donald Trump doesn’t have access to the best people. The best people are generally motivated by something other than acquiring lucre. They’re often motivated by pride in their work, fulfillment in discovery or creating something, altruism, or interest in being on the cutting edge. The people that Mr. Trump works with I would describe as opportunistic. Sharps. They work for him, because they are motivated by making money. His organizations look like that because those are the types of people that Donald Trump understands, so those are the people that are promoted in his organizations.
Have you ever looked at the government pay scale?  It’s low against management in the private sector. Much lower than someone can make working for an organization that fleeces flats.
When you put opportunistic people in a low-paying position, where they have immense political power, you typically end up with high levels of corruption.
I would expect tremendous cronyism and corruption to exist under a Trump Presidency. Far beyond what I would expect of any of the career politicians in the race. The kind of corruption that’s so bad it ends up in history books a hundred years later. Teapot Dome-level stuff. A Trump Presidency would be the complete opposite of Plato’s ideal philosopher ruler.
If you’re voting for Trump because he won’t be corrupt, you’ve badly misjudged the situation. In short, you’re a flat.

Kaushik Chokshi

Kaushik Chokshi, earthling

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It depends on whether decency matters to you.
Rod Young gives salient details (Thanks!). Trump is already corrupt. He lies. He flip flops. He energizes racists and xenophobes and misogynists.
Trump has uncanny political dexterity. To support Trump, one must already have some amount of racist or phobic feelings. And then everything he says “makes sense.” His supporters probably rationalize that decency does not matter, because they are trying to achieve a higher good (like building a wall or some such thing). Trump knows this about his supporters; he’s said at this point he can go and shoot someone on the street and his supporters would still support him.
Trump thinks his supporters are assholes–he’s counting on it.
So ask yourself if decency matters to you.

Rod Young

Rod Young, Green Party Activist

1.4k ViewsRod has 410+ answers in Politics.
I assume that this question is honest and sincere.
NO! and here are the reasons why:
Strong morals? The way Trump attacks people including a handicapped reporter does not suggest strong morals. He failed to distance himself when two supporters invoked his name while attacking a homeless man. In fact he tried make a rather lame excuse. That doesn’t speak of strong morals
I’m not a fan of Fox news but the way he went after Megan Kelly was shameful. The question was a legitimate question that he tried to weasel out of by saying he was being misquoted. Remember this is the man who is supposed to be “telling it like it is”! Then he personally attacked her in a sexist manner.
He is a serial liar. He has lied about why he can’t release his tax returns.
He lied about muslims in New Jersey City just across from the Twin Towers cheering as they feel.
There are serious questions about shady dealings with his foundation.
There are serious questions about how he has conducted business including close connections to the Mob in New York and Atlantic City.
Donald Trump has a reputation for being thin skinned and not be able to take public criticism or being challenged. Hence his recent promise to alter libel laws. That with statements that protestors at his rallies should be roughed up should give any voter a pause for concern.
In my judgement he does not have the temperament to be president.
Addendum: As for Red Sanders, look at his issues. Which are unamerican?

Jay McKinnon

Jay McKinnon

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Not corrupt? The guy’s mobbed up! I wouldn’t be surprised if the first person he pardoned was John Gotti.
Here’s just a few short biographical examples, easy to verify and by no means exhaustive, sufficient to illustrate that the man should be voted “Most Likely to be Involved in a Corruption Scandal”:
  • He built casinos in New York City and Atlantic City in the 1980s. He entered Atlantic City by buying land from a Philadelphia mafia made man at twice the market value. He then hired a construction firm owned by the same mafia to build the casio, and they then controlled the bartenders union. Not to put to fine a point on it, but in the course of developing and operating that one casino, Donald Trump was on a first-name basis with multiple mafia dons.
  • Several of Trump’s buildings in New York were built by the Genovese crime family. He shared an attorney with the head of that crime family and had at least one face-to-face meeting with the two of them.
  • Trump Tower in New York was built by a mix of mafia laborers and illegal immigrants, and his company was later convicted of conspiring to avoid paying pension and welfare fund contributions.
I haven’t even gotten into the mid-1990s yet. That doesn’t include Trump University, the pyramid scheme tourist developments, or any of the on-going litigation.
I would take 50/50 odds that he gets indicted before the election, and 90:1 odds on obstruction of justice charges within his first 90 days.

Ahmed Balfaqih

Ahmed Balfaqih, A reader of U.S politics since Reagan beat Carter.

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According to Donald himself, he donated lots of money to politicians to buy favors from them. Does this make him as corrupt as the politician who takes the money?
A corrupt person isn’t just the one who gets bought, but the one who buys him or her too.

David Silvermintz

David Silvermintz

4.3k ViewsUpvoted by Richard White, American citizen since I was born
Really? Not corrupt?
Look I am with you with regards to being excited about a candidate who isn’t part of the broken campaign finance system. It’s a big deal and maybe it will open the floodgates.
But that said, he is a climate change denier, says that the FBI Apple case is about one phone, calls his opponents shameful for using rhetoric towards him a fraction as disrespectful and insulting as he uses?
He is either corrupt to himself or others, a hypocrite, dishonest, someone willing to say anything, or someone who utterly has no command of facts or reason. None of these things are attributes I want in a president.
The benefit of having someone who isn’t corrupt is that they can discuss and address problems that the powers at be don’t want discussed or addressed. But so far, on the most important issues, he is either lock step or more extreme than than his conservative peers. He hasn’t shown a better adherence to truth than his peers.
So in Trump’s case, I don’t see the benefit of him self funding as making him a better candidate. Just my two bits.

Scott Heskew

Scott Heskew, Opinionated but well-read.

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Red Sanders! Hahahaha that’s a funny one, I hadn’t heard that one before. Seriously though, although there’s plenty of room for conservatives to dislike Bernie’s policy proposals, he has a lifelong record of crusading for the same cause and standing by the same allies. He is by nearly all accounts the most honest person in the race.
Trump is promising to protect you from people who don’t pose a meaningful threat to you, give money to people who are already a thousand times richer than you, and raise the prices on the goods you buy every day. Meanwhile he wants to take away healthcare from your neighbor down the street and deport the parents of the kid who mows your lawn. I really don’t understand why anyone would find that attractive.
Myself, I haven’t decided who to vote for yet (not wild about any of my choices, to be honest), but whoever I pick, it won’t be him.

Toby Rzepka

Toby Rzepka

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No. Lack of corruption does not make you qualified to be president. Otherwise, the vast majority of Americans would be qualified. My next door neighbor is a mechanic for the post office. Totally not corrupt. Would not make a great president. I agree that honesty and independence from special interests are very desirable in a candidate. But so are foreign policy acumen, economic policy positions, and a strong commitment to the inclusiveness and dedication to human rights that has made this country stand apart. Trump fails on all counts, especially the last. Also, I would point out that Sanders is equally well known for his honesty, lack of corporate ties, and ‘speaking his mind.’ I’m guessing you’re not a fan of democratic socialism, but if it’s honesty you’re looking for, you can get it from Sanders without the sexism, racism, xenophobia, bullying and megalomania.

Jeremy G Hunter

Jeremy G Hunter, Forestry student; love prehistory, language and ancient spirituality

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There is a fine line between honesty and the truth.
People may be very honest about what they believe, that doesn’t mean their beliefs and opinions aren’t utterly shambolic.
Furthermore, he is not corrupt in the sense that he takes bribes. Oh, no, he brazenly statedhe bribed politicians.
To describe someone as speaking out of their mind is not usually considered a good thing.
What exactly do you not like about Sanders that you refer to him as “red”? You do realize he has allies in the Republican Party because he is able to be pragmatic without compromising the content of his work? Or is it because, unlike Hillary, he doesn’t take payment from Wall Street to do after dinner speeches?

Mohamed Atef

Mohamed Atef, I’m not American but I know a thing or two about it.

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I am not really following the American presidential elections, I only saw him once on TV throwing some hostile racial bombs and I thought to myself why would he do that, why would he as a candidate be so open about something like this.
I came up with two possible explanations for this (though they might not be true but they’re the only explanations that made sense to me).
So the first thing is that there is a chance that he is actually honest and speaks his mind without placing a filter between his brain and tongue, he’s too honest to be stupid and not realise that such speech is more likely to harm his odds as a candidate than benefit it (assuming his political and economical agenda is strong enough to interest the masses), this could also be a good thing in some ways (not all) if he became the president of the United States, yet I doubt the advantages of his honesty wouldn’t be enough to outweigh the disadvantages (politics is a dirty game sometimes so you can’t be that honest) let alone being openly racist so the US might forget about equality and start a new era of discrimination).
The second possible explanation I came up with is that  he is a demagogue (whether or not he’s actually a racist and he meant what he said) who’s taking advantage of those filled with racial prejudices, dancing to the rhythm of their emotions to take advantage of their hostility towards some minorities , I am not sure if his political opinions and agendas are better or worse than other candidates, but assuming he’s falling at the bottom of the league; in that case his demagoguery is very smart, he knows he’s not that good politically so he decided to drift the racist folks attention to him since if we as humans were given two options of either destroying what we hate or building what we love, most of us would choose choose destroying what we hate because sometimes we don’t make sense like that)

Tony Burns

Tony Burns, I care what you believe but not as much as I care why you believe it.

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Won’t be corrupt? Are you kidding? He’s a greedy capitalist who has more money than one person needs and will do anything to get more.
If you haven’t seen him lie either you haven’t been following along or you accept 180 degree changes in position as a genuine change of heart.

Stuart Ing

Stuart Ing

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Ask yourself this question, would you vote for Jimmy Carter?  He is the most honest, uncorruptable president in my life time.  Rs would say no because he had wrong ideas.  The exact same thing can be said about Drumpf

Jared Anwyl

Jared Anwyl, US Citizen

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The fact that you are asking others what you should do makes me feel as though you shouldn’t allowed to have a say in who gets elected. Since you are gonna vote, my opinion is that you need to choose the less evil, because in my opinion they all suck. I will however leave this for you, despite being longer than I usually like in a video, it actually contradicts everything you said.

Cindy Merrill

Cindy Merrill, Wild food foraging, Quiet Prepper with Nutrition training in a hospital

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Sure- he speaks his mind, but he’s always changing it- this guy is unpredictable: Trying to figure out what he WILL do is like picking up mercury with a fork. The only way I’ll vote for him is if Hillary Clinton is the only option I have.

Tom Clyne

Tom Clyne

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Rod Young has given a great answer. I’d just like to add to the corruption discussion regarding Mr. Trump by referring you to work by investigative reporter Wayne Barrett.
Mr. Barrett’s familiarity with Mr. Trump and Donald’s father Fred Trump goes back to the 1970s. He put his knowledge into a book, Trump: The Deals and the Downfall. Within the pages of the book, we learn that Trump’s lawyer was Roy Cohn, an attorney who was connected every which way – he cultivated relationships and business with prominent politicians, both Democrat and Republican, and to some of the most figures in the mafia at the highest level. Despite his connections – or perhaps because of them – Cohn was eventually disbarred for being unethical and dishonest.
In 1980, Cohn was interviewed by The New York Times and is quoted as saying, “Donald wishes he didn’t have to give money to politicians, but he knows it’s part of the game.” That was in response to accusations that Trump was using political connections to get sweetheart deals. Cohn is credited with giving Trump training in politics early in his career. Cohn was deeply involved in Pres. Reagan’s election. Trump’s campaign theme, “Make America Great Again!” – well that was Reagan’s slogan in 1980.
When Trump was building Trump Tower, Cohn hosted a meeting as his own apartment between Trump; the head of the Gambino crime family, Paul Castellano and the boss of the Genovese crime family, Tony Salerno. Castellano and Salerno were running S&A Concrete. S&A worked with Trump on lots of projects.
In Trump’s hotel and condominium projects, his most frequent partner has been the Bayrock Group, a New York developer with ties to the Cosa Nostra,  but also to other organized crime operations. By 2002, Bayrock had become largely controlled by Felix Sater, who reputedly has links to Russian mobsters. Beginning in that year, Sater worked with Trump on the Trump SoHo hotel-condominium project. In 2010, Trump and the promoters of the project were the subject of a lawsuit alleging that sales figures were cooked to misrepresent the project’s financial health to induce them to buy condo units. Between 2002 and 2011 Sater received two felony convictions that also resulted in the conviction of six mobsters in the Russian mob and the Gambino crime family. Sater and Trump maintained business dealings during that time. After his felony convictions, Sater claimed to hold a position as senior advisor in 2010 and 2011 to Trump personally and to the Trump organisation.
This is all I have time for at the moment, but it’s enough to satisfy me that Trump is intimately familiar with the process of corruption. His election would only serve to increase the access that organized crime has with our government.
(By the way, not related to the question, I came across this from Fortune Magazine’s 1999 article, America’s Most Admired Companies. The Trump Plaza Casino in Atlantic City made the list. Dead last, the very worst managed of 496 companies that were rated.)
If you dig further, your own research will likely find stuff to add to my posting. By any metric, Mr. Trump has no business running the business of the United States.

John Geare

John Geare

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Trump is ALREADY corrupt. The difference between his corruption and that of other candidates is that his puppet masters are more hidden, then theirs. Indeed, he uses “his own” money to fund his election. But how did he make that money? What existing network of relationships will influence the decisions he makes when in office? We really don’t know.
By contrast, the major funding for the other candidates is well known; even published. And while we shouldn’t be surprised to note “Big Oil” might find more favor with John Kasich than with Bernie Sanders, at least we know how the deck is stacked. Well, sorta.
Very trite, but perhaps “better the devil you know.” Corruption and politics go together; there is always something from a back room, some kind of payoffs. The best that can be done is to “legitimize” the process as much as possible so that it is at least not unexpected. If Hillary wins, some girl friends are going to get nice government jobs. We all know that: patronage.
Corruption is one thing, sleaze is another. With Trump, there appears to be a great deal of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous

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My opinion the best president  in the 21h century is Obama. I like him a lot because  they way he speaks. I don’t agree with him everything he says, but kind of good guy.
Donald Trump insults everbody, Handicapped, women, republications and his wife.  If he wins, we will have a lot of entrainment in the white house. He is really a good joker. I don’t know what will happen to the US. I am positively sure, he will create more enemies. The US president’ jobs is one of the best job in the world. He won’t give damn about people. He keep saying that he wants to America great again.  He does not have any single plan about the country but keep saying the same thing. I feel he writes his own speech. Pretty sure, US is not going down another 100 years. If we keep electing, dumb people, country will headed in the wrong direction. We all are good at one thing, everyone knows that. Business people and Politicians  are two different coins. Business people money minded and they cannot run a country like a business. Maybe Donald Trump makes  him a good president if he thinks before speaks. I don’t think even he thinks before he speaks.

Charles Jack

Charles Jack, Acquainted with some H. Sapiens

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Trump has strong morals in your opinion?  I would not care to know where you get your morality (though this statement, “red Sanders”, gives me a good idea).
Trump lies *constantly*. He is caught lying in almost every public appearances. The problem is that his racist, xenophobic, low-information base doesn’t care that he lies.

Nitin Jinagal

Nitin Jinagal, Pro- politician, and not the pro-political party.

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Yes Sure. We did it with Narendra Modi for the same reasons and he is our Prime Minister now.
I must say people don’t regret the decision as the ‘same reasons’ stills exist. Nothing about corruption, straighforward personality and you must have seen him addressing people. He was treated like a rock star in your country 🙂
And I want you to vote for Donald Trump if he really posses the said qualities.

Robert Magill

Robert Magill, Husband, father, astrologer & Project Co-ordinator @ matchedharmony.date

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I DON’T WANT TO BREAK YOUR BUBBLE BUT NO PRESIDENT CAN’T MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE INSIDE AMERICA – What do I mean? Well a country like America is in a predicament which is caused by hundreds of years of governance good or bad. The predicament forces the President to act in a certain way. You could say that his hands are tied and he has a very narrow band that he can make changes. Look at how Barack Obama has been curtailed. He would have loved to do so much more with his Presidency.
THEY CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE OUTSIDE AMERICA – Look what happened when George Bush went after a war for oil in Iraq which turned into a disaster. In my opinion Donald Trump will be worse than Bush and could tip America over an edge. Donald Trump will be good for the top 1% in the country the rest will suffer terribly.
What you need is a middle of the road President who will keep things stable. There are a lot of economic headwinds like the Baby Boomers retiring and stopping mass consumption. There are loads of factors not least getting over the debt expansion over the last 70 years.

Tan Pham

Tan Pham

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If corruption refers to personal gain then I’d say that Trump will be the most corrupted President if he is elected…he has too much interests in his personal wealth to either protect or enhance it that his signatures will be very corrupted…and anyone who thinks Trump will put the country over his personal interests is delusional…

Romulus Numa

Romulus Numa

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From what I remember of trump in the past he was a lot more libral around the iraq wat he did disagree with it but he has become more conservative because he Is trying to be a republican but he still say he thought it was a bad ideas, unlike the commen republican opinion that it was a bad idea but the risk was to great to not, but trump still hold his opinion which they probably don’t like him having. I know this doesn’t answer your question really but when I saw it I thought of this as an example of him being corrupted but as not really.

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M4 maintains that modern science has established the infinitesimal (hence immaterial) essence of matter on its minutest level (i.e. that of leptons and quarks). This eradicates the alleged incommensurability of matter and mind in the materialistic sense—for fundamentally, there is no such thing as “matter”. M4 maintains that modern science has established that elementary particles exhibit irreducible awareness (as indicated, for instance, in the modified Double Slit Experiment). This eradicates the alleged incommensurability of matter and mind in the subjectivist sense. Admittedly, I am biased, possessed of pride and prejudice alike. What else could I be? M4 is my “Baby”, my Magnum Opus, and is arguably the most elegant exposition of Metaphysics since Plotinus’ “Enneads”, perhaps Plato’s “Timaeus”, mayhaps even the monumental “Memphite Theology” of the ancient Egyptians secured Shabaka, that Sudanic Sovereign of Nubian nativity. [Aristotle’s Metaphysics is anything but elegant, but this is purely the opinion of a professed Platonist.] It would be easy for an objector to eschew my self-appraisal as excessive intellectual egotism. However, a real refutation of my work would require a repudiation (or reinterpretation) of the sound science and substantive empirical evidence upon which it is based, not an unreasoned, reflexive rejection of my grandiloquent claims. Regrettably, my relative academic obscurity makes the task of kindred colleagues somewhat difficult, especially given my disciplinary dalliance in diverse areas of investigation. However, my manifest (and ambivalently desired) obscurity has not prevented prominent scientists and intellectuals from appropriating my ideas without proper attribution or acknowledgement. It is incumbent upon intellectuals (especially if they endeavor to ensconce their musings in a manuscript) to know what is known and already articulated, if indeed intellectual novelty is among their ideals—as it ought to be. In short, Dr. Nagel should know the nature of my work and adjust his arguments accordingly, even if he ultimately opposes them. Like Dr. Colin McGinn, with whom he shares a modicum of Mysterianism, he would be disinclined to dismiss the principle of Proto-Mentalism (or what I call ‘Immaterial Monism’) if he understood the implications of the inherent awareness (or ‘Proto-Percipience’) of elementary matter. But his inattention is altogether innocent, not malicious, and I take no umbrage thereat. But what, we may rightly wonder, would he say about this excerpt from M4 concerning the crucial Quantum Mechanical experiment cited previously:

“If the particles that certain suitably contrived machines detect are somehow, in some sense, ‘aware’, being cognizant of the conditions under which they exist, it should come as no surprise that a collection of quanta, atoms, molecules, cells, organs, and organ systems should, over the course of hundreds of millions of years, under the influence of a selective, guiding principle aimed at ensuring survival, result in the accretion of awareness and the emergence of what we call consciousness. Consciousness is the epiphenomenal result of the assemblage of molecules whose very elementary constituents are demonstrably possessed of the capacity for awareness. We do not know what it is like for a quark or an electron or an atom to be aware, but there seems to be little reason to doubt that they are in some sense aware. We know, moreover, that we are composed of these very entities. The key to consciousness may lie in the rudimentary awareness of the constituents of which we are composed. Animism is alive (pun intended).” (M4, p.46)

There is something superficially novel about one of Nagel’s arguments. This concerns Naturalistic Teleology. In Dr. Nagel’s estimation, Darwinian developmental doctrines that describe the emergence of awareness from insentient matter are unconvincing; there is, instead, an overarching Order, Intelligence, or Entelechy inherent in existence. This Entity appreciates and is oriented toward “value”—that is, it is able and inclined to discern “good” and “bad”; we sentient souls are manifestations of this Entity; any adequate Theory of Everything (TOE) must explain the irreducible value of value. M4 explicitly embraces Teleology—the idea of an overarching, Proto-Mental Entity inherent in the Universe. I call this abysmal, nebulous entity “Nun”. [See “Nun, Nous, & Numerous: Symbols, Science, & Supreme Mathematics”, in Ch IV of M4 (Amen-Ra, 2007).] Of course this idea is not entirely new, hence my employment of ancient Egyptian iconography to express it in M4. I could just as easily have employed the appellations Amen, Ishvara, Brahman, Purusha, Ptah or other ancient cosmogonic concepts conveying the primacy of consciousness in the Cosmos. What does make the M4 dispensation of Divine Teleology nearly novel is that it dispenses with a Divinity and offers naturalistic arguments and evidence for its principal postulates and conclusions. Thus, Nagel’s admonition to intellectuals to take Teleological Analysis seriously is appreciated though anachronistic. M4 has already introduced and explored the explanatory implications of Teleology for the mystery of Mind. Our case is cogent and compelling. It need only be considered.

Dr. Nun Sava-Siva Amen-Ra, Ascetic Idealist Philosopher
Damascus, Maryland USA
7 September MMIV

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What secret sides to human nature do therapists see that non-therapists would be surprised by?

That 90% of humans are walking around with shot gun wounds in their psyche, like zombies.

They live their lives, repeating the same mistakes, believing the same things matter that actually don’t, and worry about the same problems that in reality don’t deserve the time of day.

They do this because they run away from the things they have problems with; they are afraid of believing something else.

They believe others care about what they do, what kind of people they are, or even what they are wearing, when in reality we are all just extras in everyone else’s movie of their own life; if we die, their life goes on. In fact 99.99999999% of the planet won’t even know you when you die.

Very few people see the world for what it really is; that nobody really gives a care about you in the long term; they simply can’t. And when they think they do, do they really even know you? The real you? You are more alone than most people think, you are stuck in your own little world, amassing your own success, chalking up points to what will soon be dust, getting offended by words, pretending people hate you or think about you when they really don’t, getting upset when someone cuts you off, worrying about winning a lottery or the size of your genitals, and all the while you can’t do anything to stop your forced march into the permanent abyss.

The truth is, you’re just visiting this spinning rock in a vacuum, with no life for at least trillions of miles besides here, and you’re not taking anything with you when you go. Making others lives better, including your own, is the only way you will ever matter in any positive way for any amount of time to anyone.

…and that this bleak belief system is actually really awesome and happy, perhaps the coolest thing anyone could ever realize, because it gives you the only real purpose you have; to make things better, for everyone, just because it’s the only thing that matters, not because God says, or because someone is watching, or to prove your self worth because your parents didn’t love you enough, but just because it’s “right”, and right being that it both feels that way when we think about it, and after we do it, and brings us joy and elation.

Thats the one change you can make that lasts forever; just doing “good” as in doing something besides causing suffering; it adds up and we all feel it, even though we may not know your name, what you looked like, or what your favorite song was… what you did mattered; your life mattered and will matter to all the life that is to come, and that’s enough. In fact that’s all it ever can be. Yet almost everyone is afraid to even think about life in terms like that, to let go of the illusions we think matter so much, even though we all seem to already know it’s true.

Nick Steele